MAMAMOO () is a four-member girl group currently under RBW. Please think before you write these messages. I was enjoying binging 4 years worth of missed content from them but I guess it's inevitable that I stumbled on . I just always feel the need to resolve something when I get into it and I could see where you were coming from (plus you made some valid criticisms) so I thought Id explain myself. I can definitely understand where youre coming from and why you sounded defensive. To preface, I love Mamamoo (obviously haha - otherwise I wouldnt be subbed to this community, I guess! So to me Mamamoo isn't the most problematic groups, they are one of the every few kpop groups that take criticism and acknowledge it and learn from it. Red Velvet too. From their raunchy and raw fashion choices to wearing blackface to sing Bruno Mars - let's look back at the highs and the lows as the outspoken quartet celebrate their 6th anniversary as a band Feb 22, 2023. Im honestly not trying to tell people that everybody on that list is a problematic asshole, as Ive said before, Heechul is one of my ultimate biases and I dont think hes a problematic asshole. kpop problematic carrd! So many public figures coming out and vouching for Mamamoos talent and success only continues to prove their worth and value to the world. The show is about celebrities living their daily life alone. omg lol at everything written under heechul. My mom would like to know #AskHwasa, is mama africa a good name for you? Another chose to call out an even older incident, one in which Hwasa used the n-word while covering a Beyonc song. I do understand that some things which look like reaches to other people arent always reaches though. MEAWW brings you the best content from its global team of problematickpop:. Probation Faker. Joined: Sep 2021 #1. Fandom Name - Moomoo Sub-Unit - Mamamoo+ Japanese Website Twitter Japanese Twitter Instagram YouTube Japanese YouTube Fan Cafe Tiktok [3] Im aware people can be incredibly childish when it comes to offensive stuff in kpop, almost like its some game, like, there are actual people who look forward to exos next fuckup as though its not something that deeply upsets people. Another thing referenced against Hwasa is the occasion she dressed up as a clown. Ill probably check over the masterpost tomorrow and try to add more info and context and stuff. In terms of overlooking, I'm not sure what is expected since they've apologized for their actions and speech and the apologies have been pretty prompt. 1,891 Rep. 1 Year of Service. This has been a hard decision to make, one Ive been debating with for a good while now, but Ive decided I think its best for me to take a break from this blog. They received their first music show win in 2016 with Youre The Best and have since gone on to win dozens more, ending 2019 with a combined total of 41 music show wins, making them one of the most highest winning girl groups in history. That crosses every sort of line. window.adsContainer = {"positionAfterTitle":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle5_Rel_Newrev","isOrganicUserAd":true,"max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position2":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_After_Title_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position3":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Below_Next_Rel_Newrev","max_width":300,"max_height":250},"position4":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle_Rel_Newrev","max_width":300,"max_height":250},"position5":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle1_Rel_Newrev","max_width":300,"max_height":250},"position6":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle2_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position7":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle3_Rel_Newrev","max_width":300,"max_height":250},"position8":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle4_Rel_Newrev","max_width":300,"max_height":250},"position9":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle5_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position10":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle6_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position11":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle7_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position12":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle8_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position13":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle9_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position14":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle10_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position15":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle11_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position16":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle12_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"positionTop":{"code":"Article_Desktop_970x250_Header_Rel","isOrganicUserAd":false,"max_width":970,"max_height":250},"positionBottom":{"code":"Article_Desktop_Sidebar_Bottom_Rel_Newrev","isOrganicUserAd":true,"max_width":300,"max_height":600},"positionBottomRight":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_After_Title_Rel_Newrev","isOrganicUserAd":true,"max_width":336,"max_height":280}} okay so people seemed to find my exo masterpost pretty helpful and I'm very aware that suju aren't exactly the least offensive group around, so (since the YFIP one isn't very up-to-date) I thought I'd make a super junior masterpost since I'm a suju fan and I want to provide helpful resources for other fans . I'm a fairly new Mamamoo fan and I was hearing a lot about them being super problematic towards black people(so being black) I decided to some research to find out. Because of MISTAKES. 1 2 3 4 5 Maria29 Kpop Rookie Member Joined Dec 6, 2022 Messages 38 Location Houston Tx Credits 141 Jan 25, 2023 #81 Im going to leave this blog up so people can still refer to some of the posts and look through the tags. It is common in America to wear red puffy wigs as the stereotype of a clown, however it is not as common in South Korea, which is why Hwasa wore braids as the hair to her outfit. Everyone is allowed to make mistakes and with those mistakes, come the opportunity to correct them. I feel like stepping back will give me more time to learn and expand my horizons and less time to speak on topics I dont actually know much about. You need to Register or Login to view the content. Ive seen a lot of people (and even previously been them sometimes) throwing around the Siwon thing to say hes wildly homophobic, for example, when it turned out to be heavily unreliable and probably false. when Lay said, When asked about his ideal type, said that she, He and Chen chose Kai and Tao as the members they wouldnt want to date if they were girls, when Chen was explaining why, Xiumin interrupted him and saidThey both have a similarity, theyre both tanned (, Posted a photograph of him in a face mask on Weibo and captioned it, Apparently there were some old online comments from Baekhyuns cyworld account where he called girls at his High School sluts but I cant find any screenshots, Chanyeol and Baekhyun apparently admitted to teasing the Chinese members at first for their pronunciation/korean and acted somewhat cold towards them, though I cannot find a source for this, Many people have said Chanyeol said his ideal type would have white/pale skin but I cant find a source on that so Im not sure, Some people have told me that Kris is sexist/misogynistic but I cant find anything about this online, I also vaguely remember seeing a picture of exo which one of the members wrote comments on and there was something about Kais skin being dark but I cant remember who it was (possibly Kai himself?) i am so so tired. Above all, however, Mamamoo is a power-vocal group and strongly celebrated for it, even winning Favorite Vocal Artist at both the 2018 and 2019 MAMAs. Refresh the page,. One user tweeted, "HELP I dont like Hwasa but some of yall going a little too far, some of yall preach mental health but pick and choose who that applies too. Zhoumi laughed about the earthquake of 6.8 magniture that hit Taiwan saying When the earthquake struck just then, it was just like playing. Moreover, Zhou Mi even used last years Si Chuan earthquake as comparison, saying: Last year, when we were promoting in China, we also met an earthquake, and it was pretty happy. And Han Geng who was beside him immediately rushed forward to clarify: He (Zhou Mi) doesnt mean happy. However, it was too late, as everything was already recorded by the media. If other fandoms are able to trend Mamamoo/Hwasa hate comments, it will distract from the messes that other fandoms are currently dealing with. I will try to work on this in the future because I dont want to portray idols as villains when theyre not actually responsible for what has happened (e.g. And it manifested almost solely around Hwasa who since the very beginning has received the bulk of the hate. I dont know if youre Korean or not (your blog doesnt say) but if you arent, I consider everything youve said invalid information. It would be easy to point to other fandoms and how they have been problematic at times but that's not helpful and just continues a cycle of hate. Honestly, I would want the person that I love to be more pretty or more handsome., Culturally appropriated a Native American headdress. Yes, I should have included things such as dates. I never thought it would gain the traction that it did and I dont feel comfortable running it at the moment, Im sorry. Hwasa, while covering the track, read the lyrics as is, leading to the gaffe. Kpop music (as all music) is rightfully and obviously for everyone but i'm kinda surprised how big of a lesbian following kpop groups like mamamoo and dreamcatcher have and to some extent TXT, with other groups it doesnt seem to be that way. I dont properly feel as though I can talk about in depth because I have limited knowledge (which I probably should have specified in the post) but I didnt just pull it out of my ass, I included it because Id seen people get offended by it (though predominantly by Gain). The media and antis take things and blow it way out of proportion. },false) 21 Jan 2023, 03:11 AM . I will definitely admit that it was very sloppy and not well researched. I feel like my SuJu MP wasnt anywhere near as thorough as the exo one because I have exams at the moment so I was unable to spend as much time on it, so Id really appreciate it if people sent me anything they think I missed. also please read this before trying to contact me about any of this. }); It was laughable because a writer had a compilation of problematic things that idol groups did and you can very clearly see the double-standards people have for boy groups and girl groups (even the writer herself). The thing is, it is not just another joke. Hwasa trolled for past racism as #AskHwasa trends, Internet asks which ethnicity she will 'offend' next. And please send me a link when you upload the video, Id be interested in seeing your translation. lesbians ranked Irene and Seulgi as #1 and #2 female idols. }) The Official MAMAMOO 18+ Thread - The Bar (18+) - OneHallyu Hello everyone, in honor of MAMAMOOs super awesome comeback for their sassy title track, Um Ah Oh Yeh, from their Pinky Funky mini album, I have decided to create a 18+ thread for the sexy ladies of MAMAMOO. Yes, I should have included more info and specified where I wasnt knowledgable. Im not Korean and I dont live in Korea so Im not comfortable talking about Korean social norms or anything like that, but colorism and homophobia are still bad and damaging things. RBW then said they would work to educate themselves more on cultural sensitivity and the struggles that the black community and various other POC communities have undergone and continue to go through. Others were soon reminding Hwasa once again of her past mistakes, including wearing blackface along with the rest of Mamamoo in a performance where they were parodying Bruno Mars. Some people are a bit skeptic of whether or not I actually like Super Junior, which I can understand, but I would like to clarify that I do. }); Thank you~). its good(, When asked who their ideal types would be if the other members were girls, Chen chose Luhan and Chanyeol chose D.O and Lay then took the microphone to clarify that they were not gay by saying, A similar incident occurred at a concert(?) let gads_event; ourbridgeisforever:. You are entitled to your own opinion, and if what Mamamoo has done is considered too ignorant or rude for you to support them anymore, that is 100% in your right to not excuse them for it. Thank you everybody for everything! Ive privated the post because it was very poorly made and I acknowledge that, however, some of the criticism Im getting is from 1) people who havent actually read the post and 2) people who are refusing to acknowledge some of the things I did include in it. Goodnight. Hwasa's most recent callout stemmed from her latest comeback with the track 'Maria', a song that delved into her own struggles with mental health and being on the receiving end of severe hate. Idols lives are super scrutinized, and I think many people just forget that idols are real people too. MAMAMOO debuted on June 18, 2014, along with their single "Mr. Ambiguous." MAMAMOO was commended along with their first single by the critics as one of the best K-pop debut group in 2014. In this video, they wore blackface. ga('ads.send', { ", HELP THE QUESTIONS FOR #AskHwasa I CANT pic.twitter.com/hfqIr5fn9w, THE TWEETS UNDER THIS HASHTAG ARE RUTHLESS AHAJAKXH #AskHwasa pic.twitter.com/gEpnibGF9J, the gates of heaven are not opening for ANY of yall #AskHwasa, Baby Mia Jade Riley: Parents Lani and Tom Riley speak out after dog attack killed their 5-week-old infant, 'We have lots to reveal': Madeleine McCann lookalike Julia Wandelt posts footage of meeting with PI probing claims, Kyle Sambrook: Hiker falls 100ft to death while carrying his dog in one hand through 'appalling' weather, Killer mom Lindsay Clancy was suffering from drug withdrawal and had 'worst side effects,' says friend, Bruce Willis's mom Marlene 'not sure if her son still recognizes her' as 'aggressiveness' creeps in. hey uh, not a lot of people are anyway (thankfully), but Id really appreciate it if people could stop reblogging the super junior post I made, thatd be fab ty. #AskHwasa. It's harder to get exposed to these issues that we know about under their circumstances, but once Mamamoo comes across them and understand, they'll learn from it. And this links back to other instances of Hwasa being called out for cultural appropriation, the most recent being her wearing what appeared to be a traditional Nigerian outfit on the MBC show 'I Live Alone'. With the Henry thing, I also understand where youre coming from. ", And if anybody wants to get brave about their past mistakes, heres a link with receipts and explanations. I think this is one thing that remains somewhat undecided but considering Baekhyuns track record, I wouldnt put it past him tbh. }) According to Koreaboo, throughout the conversations, not a single person from their side attempted to make excuses for their actions. },false) For those of you who might not know, Mamamoo is a four girl idol group who debuted under RBW (Rainbowbridge World) in June of 2014. ga('ads.send', { That worried him. Im aware hes from Canada, Im aware people are less touchy-feely in the west, but the fact that the thought of his band members being gay or transworried him is definitely problematic. I will put just a fraction of some of the hate comments they receive every day down below. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), And when a few Moos did call other fandoms out on their abusive tweets, the response that night was majority she deserves it, or most common answer: its just a joke. Its quite a big responsibility looking after this blog and Im not sure my wellbeing can take that on top of my workload and personal problems. If we reflect on our own selves, Im sure a lot of us have done some similar things that could be classified as questionable if we were always in the spotlight as idols too. }); Recently the show aired a special live on the YouTube channel of I Live Alone. if he simply stated that he thought they were gay/trans, then there isnt a problem because theres nothing wrong with a person being gay/trans. ), http://ourbridgeisforever.tumblr.com/post/117874134598/hi-i-just-wanted-to-comment-on-your-tag-about, http://ourbridgeisforever.tumblr.com/post/117835308868/ayabewakasa-one-unsubstantiated-article-that, http://ourbridgeisforever.tumblr.com/post/118060768918/about-the-issue-of-siwon-saying-no-to-the-fanboy, http://ourbridgeisforever.tumblr.com/post/119551166438/baekbitchyeol-catchmeinthedrift. eventAction: 'render' One tweet asked, "What we feeling today -er or -a? I'm not dismissing them or overlooking them, but I know that there was no ill intent in what they did and that they're doing their best. On Strong Heart Henry revealed that when he first came to Southkorea he thought his fellow members were gay and that Kim Heechul was transgender. But i was told online that even after apologised that they did it again but I couldn't find anything that showed that the only thing I found was Solar doing a beggar impersonation SNL in 2016 but that's not blackface or colourism as I have seen people try to argue, as homeless do get dark or tanner as they are unable to clean themselves properly and are outside all the time. i seriously didnt mean to sound defensive?? I found out that they did blackface which is disgusting and heartbreaking cause I really liked them so I stewed on it for a few days and looked again and found that they had apologised that same day 2x and that they also apologised in person the next day concert. 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