If the evidence you have of them being homophobic is the post, then there is as much evidence to prove they aren't. Jiho becomes this after the events of the Juvenile Prison Arc. As for the shippers for these two? Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Hell, I even said that in the comments of one of the episodes on Webtoon, and someone started calling me homophobic. TVTropes is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License. I guess. " . http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WebComic/Lookism. until it's revealed why (a lack of a peaceful childhood because of bullying) which makes it sad, like when Jiho pushed Daniel and James Gong from a fifth story window, the detectives are smartly able to deduce the culprit. Both slowly fall in and out of love whilst causing chaos across the city of Seoul. About not many LGBTQ+ people being in the mainstream media, I agree with you on that. 174: The Truth Behind Daniel Park (01), Ep. The only time that can be seen as stalking is when he goes to his vacation spot when he runs into him but even then he gets an apartment next door and decides not to impose himself. Fangirl Level. During the earlier episodes, he gave Daniel a bag of new clothes when he saw the Daniel didn't have a lot. However his feelings get in the way a little more than a few times. Their relationship isn't exactly clear, but they seem to be on neutral terms, as Kitae refers to him as "dude" and talks to him casually. There are several theories floating around the internet about this, and today I'm going to get . In survey after survey, beautiful people are described as trustworthy, competent, friendly, likable and intelligent, while ugly people get the opposite labels. Lookism starts, like every form of bigotry, with prejudice and stereotypes. This culture looks at obesity as a moral weakness and a sign that youre in a lower social class. Even if obviously the author has already foreseen an ultra predictable love interest (the woman in the same condition as him). 18-Year old Daniel Park finds himself unknowingly the main source of attraction for those who have their eyes on him, and only him. Lookism MMV Daddy [Jay x Daniel] DMccloudy 521 subscribers Subscribe 47K views 2 years ago It's been a couple years since I've made a video! Did you like it. To become a sickly looking nerdy tomboy in J High. You can have my lollipop if you want!. No. We find it easier to recognize and categorize these prototypical faces than we do irregular and unattractive ones. This is a subreddit dedicated to the Lookism webtoon, written by PTJ Company, Press J to jump to the feed. Jasmine Huh. I don't ship them romantically but I love their friendship, Jay was there for Daniel a lot especially in the first 100 chapters and it was very sweet of him, but I could see how that is seen as creepy, Yeah for a friendship it's fine, but for a relationship I feel that stalking isn't the right way to go about it. Jay panicked, thinking that Daniel was crying because he was too heavy, and offered to carry him. Jace Park Joy Hong Jiho Park Kay Jang Kouji Mira Kim Vasco Kouji. Though they do have better moments later on, especially before Jays disappearance. He's found naked in a bed after being severely bullied and having profane words cut into his skin all around his body. . This ethos underlies many athletic shoe and gym ads, which hold up heroes in whom physical endowments and moral goodness are one. But when you also have Jay being socially awkward with communication. For more information, please see our My general answer is that its very hard to buck the core values of your culture, even when you know its the right thing to do. Basado en el manwa LookismGnero: YaoiPareja: Jae Yeol X Hyung Seok. The last thing I'd like to say is you are right that the author is setting up a predictable relationship. -----I love this comic so much please read it's amazing. He will never do anything to make him unhappy and respects the people he hangs out with. ? Gong Ji. Very big fan of this pair. Nothing really to say about that. This page lists all of the major characters in Lookism. During the "Runaway Fam" arc, they meet up and the chairman tells Jay to never call him again. Start translating today! 175: The Truth Behind Daniel Park (02), Ep. They have died down I've heard of being overly annoying, but they force their ship down your throat. LOVE is always connected with things. Even worse, trying to, when Park Hyung Suk/Daniel had problems starting to sing due to, Ha Neul starts falling for Hyung Suk in his original body after he saves her from, his original bully, Lee Tae Sung, because he stole the money Hyung Suk's mother gave him, She later gets one herself. And let's get things straight(ha), they don't even look that cute together. people get attached when he hasn't even a story to tell yet. Algo AU. Click here! if park hyungseok smiles brighter than starglitter, hong jaeyeol won't mind going blind. Jay quitted smoking because a side character told him that if he stopped smoking he would get a lover. Sports Department where sports is more than. Enjoy :) Also thank. He now has one mind, and two bodies. Personally speaking; I like the ship because its a lovely ship that happens to be queer and most of the sane shippers do. Read the original webcomic behind Netflix's new animated series! Work Search: In a society where looks mean everything, Daniel Park (Park Hyung Suk in the original version), short, overweight and unattractive, is viciously bullied and abused on a daily basis, but never tells his overworked mother about it. The only solution is to shift the norms and practices. SENSITIVE THEMES AND TOPICS.TAGS. If someone with immense social capital wielded it to interrupt violence, I would be impressed too and would immediately feel more safe around that person. Sorry but I will continue to ship them. Jay was unconscious, so Daniel carried him on his back. Ji Ho also wears glasses and you can't see through them. Choi Soo Jeong, who's only into Hyung Suk when he is in his original body, which she obviously tries to hide. Perhaps his small act of kindness made Jay realize that he was genuinely a good guy who cared for others. Yeah, I honestly think it's one of the earlier mistakes that PTJ didn't really intended for Jay. Jiho, after spending a month in solitary confinement. I don't mean to come off as rude. Perhaps LGBTQ+ people and Lesbians themselves also enjoy that kind of stuff? Like, wtf? 10 side characters i want ptj to bring back. It was everywhere. If Jay had been a woman I would have preferred him a hundred times over the ultra predictable relationship with Crystal which is frankly boring. And yet one of the major forms of discrimination is lookism, prejudice against the unattractive. First is something I've learned, never ever say anything about LGBTQ people on the internet because whatever you say will be taken in a negative context and will be interpreted as such, always take the time to explain yourself if you don't want to be called homophobic (it's happened to me once). Again, I think it's a fairly good ship, but I wanted to show you that even your opinion has flaws, at least to me. One night, he wakes up to discover that he is suddenly tall, fit, and incredibly handsome. Now tall, handsome, and cooler than ever in his new form, Daniel aims to achieve everything he couldn't before. After being beat up by a gang alone, Lee Jin Sung distances himself from bullying. Four Major Crews. Only your persistent hard work and efforts can help you overcome people's (initial) perception of you. Vasco is famous for this, but one can wonder why he didn't do anything earlier to help Jiho and Duke. A Korean animated series adaptation by Studio Mir was released globally on Netflix in December 2022. Which I don't mind the whole silent but let one's actions speak for them. tip: katekyou "alternate universe" sort:>words, Graphic Depictions Of Violence, Major Character Death, Rape/Non-Con, Graphic Depictions Of Violence, Rape/Non-Con, Underage, Choose Not To Use Archive Warnings, No Archive Warnings Apply, Graphic Depictions Of Violence, Rape/Non-Con, Choose Not To Use Archive Warnings, Graphic Depictions Of Violence, Graphic Depictions Of Violence, Major Character Death, Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings (114), | Saiki Kusuo no Sai-nan | The Disastrous Life of Saiki K. (2), Hong Jae Yeol | Jay/Park Hyung Suk | Daniel (264), Kim Mi Jin | Mira/Lee Jin Sung | Zack (40), Hong Jae Yeol | Jay & Park Hyung Suk | Daniel (18), Lee Eun Tae | Vasco & Park Bum Jae | Jace (16), Lee Jin Sung | Zack & Park Hyung Suk | Daniel (15), Park Ha Neul | Zoe/Park Hyung Suk | Daniel (11), Park Hyung Suk | Daniel/Park Jong Gun (11), Lee Eun Tae | Vasco/Park Bum Jae | Jace (10), Choi Soo Jung | Crystal/Park Hyung Suk | Daniel (10), Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence (11), Hong Jae Yeol | Jay/Park Hyung Suk | Daniel, Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings. 397: The Kidnapping of Daniel Park (4), Ep. So we find it easier from a brain processing perspective to look at attractive people. Jay bought new clothes for Daniel when he accidentally made it dirty, and made clothes for the dogs with the old clothes. Wellllll -10/10. I dont mind him being with jay, joy, crystal or zoe. ngl Jays wordless acts of affection for Daniel in both of his bodies literally make me evaporate into dust w glee, Who do u ship him to? An unattractive person misses out on nearly a quarter-million dollars in earnings over a lifetime. But when they saw that Daniel was a friend of Jay, they immediately changed it. !. . I don't want to come off as rude, but I love debating and this is something that many people seem very sensitive about. He's a decent character when it comes to being a part of Daniels inner circle of friends. Please select the language you want to read. but he would fit better into the vocal/dance department. Jay kept a low profile, always keeping to himself. How far will he go to keep his body. without the word Love, everything would cease to exist. The OP themselves says they'd make a good couple. Daniel is an unattractive loner who wakes up in a different body. He went out of his way to fight Logan Lee for getting Daniel's "lucky charm" or the 5000 won bill back. You say that it's because of Male fantasy, You don't care to elaborate, and that itself is a stereotype. Jaeyeol (Jay) reflexiona acerca de cmo Hyungseok (Dan) lo hace sentir cada vez que est cerca. Gayness Level. Gross as it might sound, this was something similar if not worse. His constant scheming and inability to admit fault gets him in progressively bigger trouble, culminating in being arrested on attempted murder charges. It's the only gay ship that makes least sense and you know that fujoshis and LGBTQ supporters absolutely dig shipping gay ships. 271: Hostel [Daniel Park vs Zack Lee], Ep. This episode is not yet translated into by fans. Attractive people thus start off with a slight physical advantage. i expect her to provide us some badass female action that lookism greatly lacks. I say this because I myself am Bi and most my characters are LGBTQ+ and my fellow friends also have characters that are part of the community. all we know is he's nice, rich, has an important father, brother and sister. She even went to the place where sophie took him for training. The Times is committed to publishing a diversity of letters to the editor. YN did not just spend the last five years of her life on this plan just to get fucked up when she was so close.But now it makes sense, why she doesn't fall in love with anyone else. In that case even crystal was also stalking daniel, zoe is constantly outside his house. What do we know about Jay? Cambiaformas. We can not have a story and a relationship that develops naturally and becomes homosexual otherwise it is oriented and turns only around or when it's done it's always very stereotypical and frankly everyone could see that this character was gay (he was created for that anyway). So in all, this should not even be a thing, Thanos, please remove this from existence. Daniel giggled before he looked up at James. When Victorias Secret is on the cutting edge of the fight against lookism, the rest of us have some catching up to do. Permissions beyond the scope of this license may be available from thestaff@tvtropes.org. Plus during the earlier days of the Manwha when it blew up; Jay x Daniel was the HYPE. "What should I do when I want to take them down, but you're on their side?". She later gets puppies who gets adopted by Jae Yeol who wants Hyung Suk to visit his house to see the puppies. But again, I'm not here to change your mind, or even conform to my opinion. Big Deal Jake Kim. -------------I love this comic so much please read it's amazing. We live in a society that abhors discrimination on the basis of many traits. All the ships may be problematic, if we dig that deep into it. How far will he go to keep his body. and his secrets? Confectionery/Bakery Department where they bake whenever they want. Attractive economists are more likely to study at high-ranked graduate programs and their papers are cited more often than papers from their less attractive peers. Read our Privacy Policy and Cookie Policy to get more information and learn how to set up your preferences. "jaeyeolie-yah, don't you have class?". , , . gentle? He is happy as long as Daniel is happy. Someone here wrote about Jay simping Daniel and I already knew about it. Perhaps his small act of kindness made Jay realize that he was genuinely a good guy who cared for others. Sorry but not sorry. This is translated by WEBTOON fans. Jerry Kwon. Based on the idea that Daniel's father was a pre-generation gangster, but also a good and loving father.). The economist Tyler Cowen notices that its often the educated coastal class that most strictly enforces norms about thinness and dress. As people, we carry our opinion in our pride, and I can understand how it could take a hit to you to see someone disagree with you. This is a subreddit dedicated to the Lookism webtoon, written by PTJ Company, Press J to jump to the feed. They seem to have a strained relationship with each other. Let's just say, just because they both have 2 bodies, doesn't mean they are meant to be. At first I didn't want to comment because it was 6 months ago anyway. The Stalker Arc results in Crystal suspecting Park Hyung Suk/Daniel to have two bodies, just like. Daniel is an unattractive loner who wakes up in a different body. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. it wasn't until he appeared in his life, and everything seemed to take turns of changing. I haven't seen either of those ships talked about nearly as much, though. aka jaeyeol loves his idol boyfriend a Normal Amount (delusional). Gays are always under represented and frankly regardless of their gender I don't see how the relationship can be seriously seen as stalking (I'm on chapter 100) most of the time Jay just hears something about the hero and tries to help and protect him. While I don't think it's malicious, or on purpose, you're doing the very thing you dislike others for. (We believe in social equality, as long as youre gorgeous.) Its the lookist one-upmanship of TikTok. is a dog who was abandoned by her original owner because she was an ugly mongrel. A society that celebrates beauty this obsessively is going to be a social context in which the less beautiful will be slighted. Or will she get dragged into chaos? Joy is Jay's younger sister by a year. Vasco starts shivering if he sees a pen or needle due to abuse. No, even if you are discriminated by society because of your ugliness, just screaming around like a. Hyung Suk gushes just as much about cool guys as he does with pretty girls. For minor characters, visit the minor characters page. But today, Daniel was unable to answer the questions clearly and it was beginning to worry Jay. Hong Jae Yeol | Jay Enemies to Lovers Rivals With Benefits moon and sun personality Rival Relationship Violence Blood and Injury Gun, a rich japaness young man, had just mooved to Korea for business and to get away from his life, when he encountered an interesting teenager with big plans for the futur. There are not many, but in terms of online, fandoms, indie comics, and such, there are many BL or GL, etc, ships out there. Despite being shaken up and truly nervous, Daniel greeted Jay warmly when they first met. Now Daniel was pouting. Not all the time, but often, the attractive get the first-class treatment. (And Jay was at the mall, too UwU) Sorry but I will continue to ship them. Jay's brother, Kitae, did some awful shit to Jay when he was a kid. 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